more from this thinker
|
more from this text
Single Idea 20231
[filed under theme 16. Persons / F. Free Will / 6. Determinism / a. Determinism
]
Full Idea
People used to believe that the outcome of an action was not a consequence, but an independent, supplemental ingredient, namely God's. Is a greater confusion conceivable?
Gist of Idea
People used to think that outcomes were from God, rather than consequences of acts
Source
Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 012)
Book Ref
Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'Dawn (Daybreak) (v 5)', ed/tr. Smith, Brittain [Stanford 2011], p.14
A Reaction
Not sure how well documented or accurate this is, but Nietzsche was a great scholar, and it would explain the fatalism that runs through many older forms of society.
The
30 ideas
with the same theme
[natural causes have no room for free will]:
6033
|
Democritus said everything happens of necessity, by natural motion of atoms
[Democritus, by Cicero]
|
5088
|
Some say there is a determinate cause for every apparently spontaneous event
[Democritus, by Aristotle]
|
21670
|
Democritus said atoms only move by their natural motions, which are therefore necessary
[Democritus, by Cicero]
|
330
|
No one wants to be bad, but bad men result from physical and educational failures, which they do not want or choose
[Plato]
|
14521
|
If everything is by necessity, then even denials of necessity are by necessity
[Epicurus]
|
3799
|
A dog tied to a cart either chooses to follow and is pulled, or it is just pulled
[Zeno of Citium, by Hippolytus]
|
1770
|
When a slave said 'It was fated that I should steal', Zeno replied 'Yes, and that you should be beaten'
[Zeno of Citium, by Diog. Laertius]
|
20808
|
Everything is fated, either by continuous causes or by a supreme rational principle
[Chrysippus, by Diog. Laertius]
|
20835
|
Chrysippus is wrong to believe in non-occurring future possibilities if he is a fatalist
[Plutarch on Chrysippus]
|
21391
|
Some actions are within our power; determinism needs prior causes for everything - so it is false
[Carneades, by Cicero]
|
6029
|
Whoever knows future causes knows everything that will be
[Cicero]
|
20875
|
If we could foresee the future, we should collaborate with disease and death
[Epictetus]
|
5982
|
If the future does not exist, how can prophets see it?
[Augustine]
|
5769
|
Does foreknowledge cause necessity, or necessity cause foreknowledge?
[Boethius]
|
5768
|
God's universal foreknowledge seems opposed to free will
[Boethius]
|
4311
|
We think we are free because we don't know the causes of our desires and choices
[Spinoza]
|
7828
|
The actual world is the only one God could have created
[Spinoza]
|
2119
|
People argue for God's free will, but it isn't needed if God acts in perfection following supreme reason
[Leibniz]
|
7841
|
We think we are free because the causes of the will are unknown; determinism is a false problem
[Leibniz]
|
3441
|
If a supreme intellect knew all atoms and movements, it could know all of the past and the future
[Laplace]
|
21477
|
We don't control our own thinking
[Schopenhauer]
|
4170
|
Man's actions are not free, because they follow strictly from impact of motive on character
[Schopenhauer]
|
20231
|
People used to think that outcomes were from God, rather than consequences of acts
[Nietzsche]
|
23210
|
That all events are necessary does not mean they are compelled
[Nietzsche]
|
8352
|
To believe in determinism, one must believe in a system which determines events
[Anscombe]
|
22371
|
Determinism threatens free will if actions can be causally traced to external factors
[Foot]
|
8424
|
Determinism says there can't be two identical worlds up to a time, with identical laws, which then differ
[Lewis]
|
3892
|
Every event having a cause, and every event being determined by its cause, are not the same
[Scruton]
|
14939
|
Two versions of quantum theory say that the world is deterministic
[Ladyman/Ross]
|
12410
|
There once was a man who said 'Damn!...
[Sommers,W]
|