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[filed under theme 1. Philosophy / C. History of Philosophy / 2. Ancient Philosophy / b. Pre-Socratic philosophy ]

Full Idea

The pre-Socratics are interesting, but philosophy really begins in drama; it's a competitive discourse to tragedy. Which is why Plato's 'Republic' excludes the poets: they're the competition; gotta get rid of them.

Gist of Idea

Philosophy really got started as the rival mode of discourse to tragedy

Source

Simon Critchley (Impossible Objects: interviews [2012], 6)

Book Ref

Critchley,Simon: 'Impossible Objects: interviews' [Politty 2012], p.110


A Reaction

That's an interesting and novel perspective. So what was the 'discourse' of tragedy saying, and why did that provoke the new rival? Was it too fatalistic?


The 7 ideas with the same theme [philosophy up to 410 BCE]:

Anaximander produced the first philosophy book (and maybe the first book) [Anaximander, by Bodnár]
Plato never mentions Democritus, and wished to burn his books [Plato, by Diog. Laertius]
All the major problems were formulated before Socrates [Nietzsche]
I revere Heraclitus [Nietzsche]
Xenophanes began the concern with knowledge [Annas]
Philosophy really got started as the rival mode of discourse to tragedy [Critchley]
The Pre-Socratics are not simple naturalists, because they do not always 'leave the gods out' [Leroi]