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[filed under theme 17. Mind and Body / E. Mind as Physical / 5. Causal Argument ]

Full Idea

Zeno held (contrary to Xenocrates and others) that it was impossible for anything to be effected that lacked a body, and indeed that whatever effected something or was affected by something must be body.

Gist of Idea

A body is required for anything to have causal relations

Source

report of Zeno (Citium) (fragments/reports [c.294 BCE]) by M. Tullius Cicero - Academica I.39

Book Ref

'The Stoics Reader', ed/tr. Inwood,B/Gerson,L.P. [Hackett 2008], p.86


A Reaction

This seems to make stoics thoroughgoing physicalists, although they consider the mind to be made of refined fire, rather than of flesh.


The 13 ideas with the same theme [claim that mental causation requires physicalism]:

The soul cannot be incorporeal, because then it could neither act nor be acted upon [Epicurus]
A body is required for anything to have causal relations [Zeno of Citium, by Cicero]
How can that which is unthinking be a cause of thought? [Berkeley]
Experienced time means no two mental moments are ever alike [Bergson]
Cause unites our picture of the universe; without it, mental and physical will separate [Davidson]
Davidson sees identity as between events, not states, since they are related in causation [Davidson, by Lowe]
Reductionists deny new causal powers at the higher level [Kim]
Without reductionism, mental causation is baffling [Kim]
It is absurd to think that physical effects are caused twice, so conscious causes must be physical [Papineau]
Overdetermination occurs if two events cause an effect, when each would have caused it alone [Crane]
If a car is a higher-level entity, distinct from its parts, how could it ever do anything? [Heil]
The appeal of the identity theory is its simplicity, and its solution to the mental causation problem [Heil]
The main argument for physicalism is its simple account of causation [Sturgeon]