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Single Idea 20918

[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / C. Space / 1. Void ]

Full Idea

It is absurd to explain place by the void, as though this latter were not itself some kind of place.

Gist of Idea

Void is a kind of place, so it can't explain place

Source

Aristotle (On the Heavens [c.336 BCE], 309b24)

Book Ref

Democritus: 'Early Greek Phil VII: Democritus', ed/tr. Laks,A/Most,G [Harvard Loeb 2016], p.395


A Reaction

Presumably this is aimed at Democritus.


The 8 ideas with the same theme [volumes of the Cosmos containing nothing]:

The void can't exist, and without the void there can't be movement or separation [Parmenides, by Aristotle]
The void is not required for change, because a plenum can alter in quality [Aristotle on Melissus]
Democritus is wrong: in a void we wouldn't see a distant ant in exact detail [Aristotle on Democritus]
Movement is impossible in a void, because nothing can decide the direction of movement [Aristotle on Democritus]
Growth and movement would not exist if there were no void to receive them [Democritus]
Void is a kind of place, so it can't explain place [Aristotle]
The void cannot interact, but just gives the possibility of motion [Epicurus]
There is no void in the cosmos, but indefinite void outside it [Zeno of Citium, by Ps-Plutarch]