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Single Idea 21242

[filed under theme 28. God / B. Proving God / 2. Proofs of Reason / a. Ontological Proof ]

Full Idea

Clearly that than which a greater cannot be thought cannot exist in the understanding alone. For it it is actually in the understanding alone, it can be thought of as existing also in reality, and this is greater.

Gist of Idea

If that than which a greater cannot be thought actually exists, that is greater than the mere idea

Source

Anselm (Proslogion [1090], Ch 2)

Book Ref

'The Existence of God', ed/tr. Hick,John [Macmillan 1964], p.26


A Reaction

The suppressed premise is 'something actually existing is greater than the mere conception of it'. As it stands this is wrong. I can imagine a supreme evil. But see Idea 21243.

Related Ideas

Idea 21243 An existing thing is even greater if its non-existence is inconceivable [Anselm]

Idea 21241 Even the fool can hold 'a being than which none greater exists' in his understanding [Anselm]


The 9 ideas from 'Proslogion'

Even the fool can hold 'a being than which none greater exists' in his understanding [Anselm]
If that than which a greater cannot be thought actually exists, that is greater than the mere idea [Anselm]
Anselm's first proof fails because existence isn't a real predicate, so it can't be a perfection [Malcolm on Anselm]
Conceiving a greater being than God leads to absurdity [Anselm]
An existing thing is even greater if its non-existence is inconceivable [Anselm]
A perfection must be independent and unlimited, and the necessary existence of Anselm's second proof gives this [Malcolm on Anselm]
The word 'God' can be denied, but understanding shows God must exist [Anselm]
Guanilo says a supremely fertile island must exist, just because we can conceive it [Anselm]
Nonexistence is impossible for the greatest thinkable thing, which has no beginning or end [Anselm]