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Single Idea 21243

[filed under theme 28. God / B. Proving God / 2. Proofs of Reason / a. Ontological Proof ]

Full Idea

Something can be thought of as existing, which cannot be thought of as not existing, and this is greater than that which cannot be thought of as not existing.

Gist of Idea

An existing thing is even greater if its non-existence is inconceivable

Source

Anselm (Proslogion [1090], Ch 3)

Book Ref

'The Existence of God', ed/tr. Hick,John [Macmillan 1964], p.26


A Reaction

This is a necessary addition, to single out the concept of God as special. But you really must give reasons for saying God's non-existence is inconceivable. Atheists seem to manage.

Related Ideas

Idea 21242 If that than which a greater cannot be thought actually exists, that is greater than the mere idea [Anselm]

Idea 21241 Even the fool can hold 'a being than which none greater exists' in his understanding [Anselm]


The 9 ideas from 'Proslogion'

Even the fool can hold 'a being than which none greater exists' in his understanding [Anselm]
If that than which a greater cannot be thought actually exists, that is greater than the mere idea [Anselm]
Anselm's first proof fails because existence isn't a real predicate, so it can't be a perfection [Malcolm on Anselm]
Conceiving a greater being than God leads to absurdity [Anselm]
An existing thing is even greater if its non-existence is inconceivable [Anselm]
A perfection must be independent and unlimited, and the necessary existence of Anselm's second proof gives this [Malcolm on Anselm]
The word 'God' can be denied, but understanding shows God must exist [Anselm]
Guanilo says a supremely fertile island must exist, just because we can conceive it [Anselm]
Nonexistence is impossible for the greatest thinkable thing, which has no beginning or end [Anselm]