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Single Idea 21302

[filed under theme 9. Objects / E. Objects over Time / 7. Intermittent Objects ]

Full Idea

If a church which was formerly of brick fell to ruin, the parish can build the same church of free-stone, with modern architecture. Neither the form nor materials are the same, but their relation to the parishioners is sufficient to say they are the same.

Gist of Idea

If a ruined church is rebuilt, its relation to its parish makes it the same church

Source

David Hume (Treatise of Human Nature [1739], I.IV.6)

Book Ref

Hume,David: 'A Treatise of Human Nature', ed/tr. Selby-Bigge/Nidditch [OUP 1978], p.258


A Reaction

The clearly invites the question of whether this is type-identity or token-identity. If the parish decided they wanted two churches they obviously wouldn't be the same (even if they then demolished the first one).


The 8 ideas with the same theme [objects which cease, and then return to existence]:

One thing cannot have two beginnings of existence, nor two things one beginning [Locke]
If a ruined church is rebuilt, its relation to its parish makes it the same church [Hume]
Intermittence is seen in a toy fort, which is dismantled then rebuilt with the same bricks [Chisholm, by Simons]
A restored church is the same 'church', but not the same 'building' or 'brickwork' [Wiggins]
A thing begins only once; for a clock, it is when its making is first completed [Wiggins]
When an electron 'leaps' to another orbit, is the new one the same electron? [Inwagen]
Intermittent objects would be respectable if they occurred in nature, as well as in artefacts [Simons]
Objects like chess games, with gaps in them, are thereby less unified [Simons]