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Single Idea 21303

[filed under theme 9. Objects / E. Objects over Time / 8. Continuity of Rivers ]

Full Idea

Where the objects are in their nature changeable and inconstant, we admit of a more sudden transition. The nature of a river consists in the motion and change of parts. What is expected appears of less moment than what is unusual and extraordinary.

Gist of Idea

We accept the identity of a river through change, because it is the river's nature

Source

David Hume (Treatise of Human Nature [1739], I.IV.6)

Book Ref

Hume,David: 'A Treatise of Human Nature', ed/tr. Selby-Bigge/Nidditch [OUP 1978], p.258


A Reaction

Aha! Little does Hume realise how Aristotelian he is! Aristotle may have a more objective view of the 'nature' of a thing, but making inferences about identity over time from a thing's essential nature is pure Aristotle.


The 9 ideas with the same theme [is a river the same as the water in the river?]:

You can bathe in the same river twice, but not in the same river stage [Quine on Heraclitus]
It is not possible to step twice into the same river [Heraclitus]
Cratylus said you couldn't even step into the same river once [Cratylus, by Aristotle]
A thing is (less properly) the same over time if each part is succeeded by another [Buridan]
It is the same river if it has the same source, no matter what flows in it [Hobbes]
We accept the identity of a river through change, because it is the river's nature [Hume]
Humeans cannot step in the same river twice, because they cannot strictly form the concept of 'river' [Harré/Madden]
One can step into the same river twice, but not into the same water [Benardete,JA]
A river is not just event; it needs actual and counterfactual boundaries [Williamson]