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Single Idea 21313

[filed under theme 16. Persons / D. Continuity of the Self / 2. Mental Continuity / a. Memory is Self ]

Full Idea

Though consciousness of what is past does ascertain our personal identity to ourselves, yet to say that it makes personal identity, or is necessary to our being the same persons is to say a person has not existed a single moment but what he can remember.

Gist of Idea

If consciousness of events makes our identity, then if we have forgotten them we didn't exist then

Source

Joseph Butler (Analogy of Religion [1736], App.1)

Book Ref

'Personal Identity', ed/tr. Perry,John [University of California 1975], p.100


A Reaction

An over-cautious scepticism has crept in about the reliability of bodily identity. Now we can have photographs and CCTV to prove that we experienced events we have forgotten. Butler is right.


The 5 ideas from 'Analogy of Religion'

A tree remains the same in the popular sense, but not in the strict philosophical sense [Butler]
Despite consciousness fluctuating, we are aware that it belongs to one person [Butler]
Consciousness presupposes personal identity, so it cannot constitute it [Butler]
If consciousness of events makes our identity, then if we have forgotten them we didn't exist then [Butler]
If the self changes, we have no responsibilities, and no interest in past or future [Butler]