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Single Idea 214

[filed under theme 8. Modes of Existence / D. Universals / 6. Platonic Forms / c. Self-predication ]

Full Idea

If you regard the absolute great and the many great things in the same way, will not another appear beyond, by which all these must appear to be great?

Gist of Idea

If absolute greatness and great things are seen as the same, another thing appears which makes them seem great

Source

Plato (Parmenides [c.364 BCE], 132a)

Book Ref

Plato: 'Plato IV (Cratylus,Parmenides,Hippias Maj, Min)', ed/tr. Fowler,H.N. [Harvard Loeb 1926], p.217


The 6 ideas with the same theme [whether forms exemplify their own quality]:

If absolute greatness and great things are seen as the same, another thing appears which makes them seem great [Plato]
Nothing can be like an absolute idea, because a third idea intervenes to make them alike (leading to a regress) [Plato]
If asked whether justice itself is just or unjust, you would have to say that it is just [Plato]
If gods are like men, they are just eternal men; similarly, Forms must differ from particulars [Aristotle on Plato]
Forms have to be their own paradigms, which seems to fuse the paradigm and the copy [Aristotle]
Most thinkers now reject self-predication (whiteness is NOT white) so there is no Third Man problem [Armstrong]