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Single Idea 21536

[filed under theme 9. Objects / A. Existence of Objects / 3. Objects in Thought ]

Full Idea

When, after hearing the notes of a melody, I perceive the melody, the notes are not presented as still existing.

Gist of Idea

When I perceive a melody, I do not perceive the notes as existing

Source

Bertrand Russell (Meinong on Complexes and Assumptions [1904], p.31)

Book Ref

Russell,Bertrand: 'Essays in Analysis', ed/tr. Lackey,Douglas [George Braziller 1973], p.31


A Reaction

This is a good example, supporting Meinong's idea that we focus on 'intentional objects', rather than actual objects.

Related Idea

Idea 21537 I assume we perceive the actual objects, and not their 'presentations' [Russell]


The 15 ideas with the same theme [objects as conceptual entities used in reasoning]:

A thing is completely determined by all that can be thought concerning it [Dedekind]
Frege's 'objects' are both the referents of proper names, and what predicates are true or false of [Frege, by Dummett]
The concept 'object' is too simple for analysis; unlike a function, it is an expression with no empty place [Frege]
For Frege, objects just are what singular terms refer to [Frege, by Hale/Wright]
Without concepts we would not have any objects [Frege, by Shapiro]
Late Frege saw his non-actual objective objects as exclusively thoughts and senses [Frege, by Dummett]
Meinong says an object need not exist, but must only have properties [Meinong, by Friend]
There are objects of which it is true that there are no such objects [Meinong]
When I perceive a melody, I do not perceive the notes as existing [Russell]
I call an object of thought a 'term'. This is a wide concept implying unity and existence. [Russell]
An 'object' is just what can be referred to without possible non-existence [Wittgenstein]
If objects are thoughts, aren't we back to psychologism? [Marcus (Barcan)]
There is a modern philosophical notion of 'object', first introduced by Frege [Dummett]
Objects, as well as sentences, can have logical form [Fine,K]
An object is an entity which has identity-conditions [Lowe]