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Single Idea 21672

[filed under theme 3. Truth / B. Truthmakers / 10. Making Future Truths ]

Full Idea

Just as we speak of past things as true that possessed true actuality at some former time, so we speak of future things as true that will possess true actuality at some following time.

Gist of Idea

We say future things are true that will possess actuality at some following time

Source

report of Carneades (fragments/reports [c.174 BCE]) by M. Tullius Cicero - On Fate ('De fato') 11.27

Book Ref

Cicero: 'On Fate, Stoic Paradoxes, Oratory', ed/tr. Rackham,H. [Harvard Loeb 1942], p.223


A Reaction

This ducks the Aristotle problem of where it is true NOW when you say there will be a sea-fight tomorrow, and it turns out to be true. Carneades seems to be affirming a truth when it does not yet have a truthmaker.


The 5 ideas with the same theme [how truths about the future can be made true now]:

It is necessary that either a sea-fight occurs tomorrow or it doesn't, though neither option is in itself necessary [Aristotle]
The causes of future true events must exist now, so they will happen because of destiny [Chrysippus, by Cicero]
Future events are true if one day we will say 'this event is happening now' [Carneades]
We say future things are true that will possess actuality at some following time [Carneades, by Cicero]
In the tenseless view, all times are equally real, so statements of the future have truth-values [Le Poidevin]