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Single Idea 22941

[filed under theme 28. God / A. Divine Nature / 5. God and Time ]

Full Idea

Could a timeless being now know what the time was? If so, does this show that there must be something wrong with the idea of God as both timeless and omniscient?

Gist of Idea

How could a timeless God know what time it is? So could God be both timeless and omniscient?

Source

Robin Le Poidevin (Travels in Four Dimensions [2003], 09 'Questions')

Book Ref

Le Poidevin,Robin: 'Travels in Four Dimensions' [OUP 2003], p.147


A Reaction

This is a potential contradiction between the perfections of a supreme God which I had not noticed before. Leibniz tried to refute such objections, but not very successfully, I think.

Related Idea

Idea 21252 Perfections must have overlapping parts if their incompatibility is to be proved [Leibniz]


The 9 ideas with the same theme [relationship between God, time and eternity]:

God is not a creator (involving time and change) and is not concerned with the inferior universe [Aristotle, by Armstrong,K]
All things are in the present time to God [Augustine]
If God existed before creation, why would a perfect being desire to change things? [Augustine, by Bardon]
If God is outside time in eternity, can He hear prayers? [Augustine]
Divine eternity is the all-at-once and complete possession of unending life [Boethius]
If time were absolute that would make God's existence dependent on it [Leibniz, by Bardon]
God is 'eternal' either by being non-temporal, or by enduring forever [Davies,B]
God being inside or outside of time both raise a group of difficult problems [Le Poidevin]
How could a timeless God know what time it is? So could God be both timeless and omniscient? [Le Poidevin]