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[filed under theme 13. Knowledge Criteria / D. Scepticism / 5. Dream Scepticism ]

Full Idea

Often after waking do you know that your dream was a dream. Still, there may be an even greater awakening after which you will know that this, too, was just a greater dream.

Gist of Idea

You know you were dreaming when you wake, but there might then be a greater awakening from that

Source

Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu) (The Book of Chuang Tzu [c.329 BCE], 02), quoted by Bryan van Norden - Intro to Classical Chinese Philosophy 9.2

Book Ref

Norden,Bryan van: 'Intro to Classical Chinese Philosophy' [Hackett 2011], p.144


A Reaction

This is the key to the full horror of dream scepticism (as dramatised in the film 'The Matrix'). We can never know whether there is yet another awakening about to occur.


The 7 ideas with the same theme [apparent reality may be just a false dream]:

What evidence can be brought to show whether we are dreaming or not? [Plato]
Dreams aren't a serious problem. No one starts walking round Athens next morning, having dreamt that they were there! [Aristotle]
You know you were dreaming when you wake, but there might then be a greater awakening from that [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Did Chuang Tzu dream he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dream he was Chuang Tzu? [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Waking actions are joined by memory to all our other actions, unlike actions of which we dream [Descartes]
Dreams must be false because they seem absurd, but dreams don't see waking as absurd [Hobbes]
Dreams can be explained fairly scientifically if we assume a physical world [Russell]