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[filed under theme 13. Knowledge Criteria / D. Scepticism / 5. Dream Scepticism ]

Full Idea

Often after waking do you know that your dream was a dream. Still, there may be an even greater awakening after which you will know that this, too, was just a greater dream.

Gist of Idea

You know you were dreaming when you wake, but there might then be a greater awakening from that

Source

Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu) (The Book of Chuang Tzu [c.329 BCE], 02), quoted by Bryan van Norden - Intro to Classical Chinese Philosophy 9.2

Book Ref

Norden,Bryan van: 'Intro to Classical Chinese Philosophy' [Hackett 2011], p.144


A Reaction

This is the key to the full horror of dream scepticism (as dramatised in the film 'The Matrix'). We can never know whether there is yet another awakening about to occur.


The 15 ideas from Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)

You know you were dreaming when you wake, but there might then be a greater awakening from that [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Words are for meaning, and once you have that you can forget the words [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
The perfect man has no self [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Did Chuang Tzu dream he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dream he was Chuang Tzu? [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Words of wisdom are precise and clear [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Don't even start, let's just stay put [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Disagreement means you do not understand at all [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
If you beat me in argument, does that mean you are right? [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Great courage is not violent [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
As all life is one, what need is there for words? [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
If words can't be defined, they may just be the chirruping of chicks [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Go with the flow, and be one with the void of Heaven [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Fish forget about each other in the pond and forget each other in the Tao [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
To see with true clarity, your self must be irrelevant [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Do not try to do things, or to master knowledge; just be empty [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]