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Single Idea 23919

[filed under theme 23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 4. External Goods / d. Friendship ]

Full Idea

Just as if people wish to be healthy they do not become healthy, so if they wish to be friends they are not immediately in fact friends. …[1237b40] For a friend is not to be had without a test or in a single day, but needs time.

Gist of Idea

Friendship cannot be immediate; it takes time, and needs testing

Source

Aristotle (Eudemian Ethics [c.333 BCE], 1237b21)

Book Ref

Aristotle: 'Eudemian Ethics', ed/tr. Reeve, C.D.C. [Hackett 2021], p.118


A Reaction

The voice of experience, I think. Obviously trust is basic, and it would be unwise to trust a possible friend on the first day. Since politics aims at friendship, I presume the support of the rule of law helps to achieve trust.

Related Ideas

Idea 23916 The best cure for mutual injustice is friendship [Aristotle]

Idea 23915 The main function of politics is to produce friendship [Aristotle]


The 21 ideas with the same theme [close personal relationships as a virtue]:

People say that friendship exists only between good men [Plato]
Bad people are never really friends with one another [Plato]
Cyrenaics say wise men are self-sufficient, needing no friends [Aristippus young, by Diog. Laertius]
Aristotle does not confine supreme friendship to moral heroes [Cooper,JM on Aristotle]
For Aristotle in the best friendships the binding force is some excellence of character [Cooper,JM on Aristotle]
Bad men can have friendships of utility or pleasure, but only good men can be true friends [Aristotle]
Friendship cannot be immediate; it takes time, and needs testing [Aristotle]
Decent people can be friends with base people [Aristotle]
Master and slave can have friendship through common interests [Aristotle]
We value friendship just for its own sake [Aristotle]
Friendship is by far the most important ingredient of a complete and happy life [Epicurus]
It is better to have one intelligent friend than many unintelligent [Democritus (attr)]
Don't befriend fools; either find superior friends, or travel alone [Anon (Dham)]
True friendship is even rarer than true love [Rochefoucauld]
Friendship without community spirit misses out on the main part of virtue [Hume]
Many people are better at having good friends than being a good friend [Nietzsche]
Women can be friends with men, but only some physical antipathy will maintain it [Nietzsche]
If you want friends, you must be a fighter [Nietzsche]
Friendship is partly universal - the love of a person is like the ideal of loving everyone [Weil]
Friends express friendship even when no utility is involved [Statman]
The Greek 'philia' covers all good and fruitful relationships [Cooper,JM]