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Single Idea 2395
[filed under theme 17. Mind and Body / D. Property Dualism / 5. Supervenience of mind
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Full Idea
It seems logically possible that a creature physically identical to a conscious creature might have no conscious experiences (a zombie)…so conscious experience supervenes naturally but not logically on the physical.
Gist of Idea
Zombies imply natural but not logical supervenience
Source
David J.Chalmers (The Conscious Mind [1996], 1.2.1)
Book Ref
Chalmers,David J.: 'The Conscious Mind' [OUP 1997], p.38
A Reaction
"It seems possible" isn't much of an argument. This claim by Chalmers has been a great incentive to reassess what is or isn't possible. Can a brain lack consciousness? Can a tree fall over silently? Can cyanide stop poisoning us?
The
19 ideas
with the same theme
[total mapping of thoughts onto brain events]:
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5018
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Even if tightly united, mind and body are different, as God could separate them
[Descartes]
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5924
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Identical objects must have identical value
[Ross]
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16041
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Supervenience of the mental means physical changes mental, and mental changes physical
[Davidson]
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3477
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If mind-brain supervenience isn't causal, this implies epiphenomenalism
[Searle]
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3531
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Mental events can cause even though supervenient, like the solidity of a piston
[Searle]
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3478
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Upwards mental causation makes 'supervenience' irrelevant
[Searle]
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3476
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Mind and brain are supervenient in respect of cause and effect
[Searle]
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2309
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Non-Reductive Physicalism relies on supervenience
[Kim]
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2311
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Maybe strong supervenience implies reduction
[Kim]
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3362
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Supervenience says all souls are identical, being physically indiscernible
[Kim]
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3413
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Zombies and inversion suggest non-reducible supervenience
[Kim]
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3510
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Epiphenomenalism is supervenience without physicalism
[Papineau]
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3511
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Supervenience requires all mental events to have physical effects
[Papineau]
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2995
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Supervenience gives good support for mental causation
[Fodor]
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7865
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Supervenience can be replaced by identifying mind with higher-order or disjunctional properties
[Papineau]
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4080
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If mental supervenes on the physical, then every physical cause will be accompanied by a mental one
[Crane]
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2395
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Zombies imply natural but not logical supervenience
[Chalmers]
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17277
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If mind supervenes on the physical, it may also explain the physical (and not vice versa)
[Fine,K]
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6158
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Supervenience of mental and physical properties often comes with token-identity of mental and physical particulars
[Rowlands]
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