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[filed under theme 21. Aesthetics / A. Aesthetic Experience / 6. The Sublime ]

Full Idea

Whoever does not achieve the beautiful seeks the wildly sublime, because there even the ugly can show its 'beauty'. Likewise we seek the wildly sublime morality.

Gist of Idea

People who miss beauty seek the sublime, where even the ugly shows its 'beauty'

Source

Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82 [1882], 11[049])

Book Ref

Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'The Joyful Science, and 1881-82 fragments (v 6)', ed/tr. Del Caro,Adrian [Stanford 2023], p.321


A Reaction

Is the 'we' here Nietzsche, or the herd? The former, I guess, since some the values he likes seem rather ugly to me. He is a fan of war, for example. I'm guessing that massive destruction is sublime but ugly.


The 12 ideas from 'Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82'

Seeing with other eyes is more egoism, but exploring other perspectives leads to objectivity [Nietzsche]
For absolute morality a goal for mankind is needed [Nietzsche]
The goal is to settle human beings, like other animals, but humans are still changeable [Nietzsche]
People who miss beauty seek the sublime, where even the ugly shows its 'beauty' [Nietzsche]
See our present lives as eternal! Religions see it as fleeting, and aim at some different life [Nietzsche]
Essences are fictions needed for beings who represent things [Nietzsche]
Our inclinations would not conflict if we were a unity; we imagine unity for our multiplicity [Nietzsche]
The sublimity of nature which dwarfs us was a human creation [Nietzsche]
I tell the truth, even if it is repulsive [Nietzsche]
We can aspire to greatness by creating new functions for ourselves [Nietzsche]
Humans are vividly aware of short-term effects, and almost ignorant of the long-term ones [Nietzsche]
Our growth is too subtle to perceive, and long events are too slow for us to grasp [Nietzsche]