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Single Idea 24133

[filed under theme 16. Persons / F. Free Will / 6. Determinism / b. Fate ]

Full Idea

I have perfected fatalism, through eternal recurrence and preexistence, and through the elimination of the concept 'will'.

Gist of Idea

I have perfected fatalism, as recurrence and denial of the will

Source

Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1884-85 [1884], 25[214])

Book Ref

Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'Fragments from 1884-85 (v 15)', ed/tr. Loeb,P.S./Tinsley,D.F. [Stanford 2022], p.60


A Reaction

'Amor fati' - love of fate - was his oft repeated slogan. We can all understand 'go with the flow', but I'm not sure about anything more universal than that.


The 11 ideas with the same theme [our own efforts are made pointless by determinism]:

Sooner follow mythology, than accept the 'fate' of natural philosophers [Epicurus]
The Lazy Argument responds to fate with 'why bother?', but the bothering is also fated [Chrysippus, by Cicero]
Fate is an eternal and fixed chain of causal events [Chrysippus]
When we say events are fated by antecedent causes, do we mean principal or auxiliary causes? [Chrysippus]
The nearest to ancient determinism is Stoic fate, but that is controlled by a sympathetic God [Stoic school, by Frede,M]
Even Apollo can only foretell the future when it is naturally necessary [Carneades, by Cicero]
If I know I am fated to be ill, I should want to be ill [Epictetus]
Sloth's Syllogism: either it can't happen, or it is inevitable without my effort [Leibniz]
I have perfected fatalism, as recurrence and denial of the will [Nietzsche]
Fate is inspiring, if you understand you are part of it [Nietzsche]
The human heart has a tiresome tendency to label as fate only what crushes it [Camus]