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Single Idea 24141

[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 1. Nature of Time / a. Absolute time ]

Full Idea

Our derivation of the sense of time etc. still presupposes time as absolute.

Gist of Idea

Having a sense of time presupposes absolute time

Source

Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1884-85 [1884], 25[406])

Book Ref

Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'Fragments from 1884-85 (v 15)', ed/tr. Loeb,P.S./Tinsley,D.F. [Stanford 2022], p.105


A Reaction

'Etc.'? I suppose this is meant to pre-empt whatever Bergson might have been planning to say. The idea that time actually is subjective strikes as very wrong. Whether physicists can reduce time to something else is above my pay scale.


The 13 ideas with the same theme [time is a real and unchanging backdrop to nature]:

Stoics say time is incorporeal and self-sufficient; Epicurus says it is a property of properties of things [Epicurus]
Does time exist on its own? Did anything precede it? Did it pre-exist the cosmos? [Seneca]
Newton needs intervals of time, to define velocity and acceleration [Newton, by Le Poidevin]
Newton thought his laws of motion needed absolute time [Newton, by Bardon]
Time exists independently, and flows uniformly [Newton]
Absolute time, from its own nature, flows equably, without relation to anything external [Newton]
If space and time exist absolutely, we must assume the existence of two pointless non-entities [Kant]
If all empirical sensation of bodies is removed, space and time are still left [Kant]
Having a sense of time presupposes absolute time [Nietzsche]
Simultaneity can be temporal equidistance from the Big Bang [Ellis]
Relativity is as absolutist about space-time as Newton was about space [Coffa]
I believe the passing of time is a fundamental fact about the world [Maudlin]
Special Relativity allows an absolute past, future, elsewhere and simultaneity [Bourne]