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[filed under theme 21. Aesthetics / A. Aesthetic Experience / 6. The Sublime ]

Full Idea

Egoistic accounts of the sublime allow that our fragility is revealed, but also claim we feel something positive about ourselves. Non-egoistic accounts question whether the self-negation is so terrible after all.

Gist of Idea

Accounts of sublimity differ over whether we learn something good about ourselves

Source

Tom Cochrane (The Aesthetic Value of the World [2021], 3.2)

Book Ref

Cochrane,Tom: 'The Aesthetic Value of the World' [OUP 2021], p.58


A Reaction

[compressed] I think I favour the non-egoistic approach. It is like the thrill of seeing a great performance in the arts or sport. It humbles me - but also I feel part of something greater than me. Like a child on the winning side in a war.


The 11 ideas with the same theme [the highest level of aesthetic experience]:

The mathematical sublime is immeasurable greatness; the dynamical sublime is overpowering [Kant, by Pinkard]
The sublime is a moral experience [Kant, by Gardner]
The Sublime fights for will-less knowing, when faced with a beautiful threat to humanity [Schopenhauer, by Lewis,PB]
People who miss beauty seek the sublime, where even the ugly shows its 'beauty' [Nietzsche]
The sublimity of nature which dwarfs us was a human creation [Nietzsche]
In life we neglect 'cosmic emotion', but it matters, and art brings it to the fore [Fry]
Visual form can create a sublime mental state [Bell,C]
Beauty is an attractive mystery, leaving nothing to be desired [Weil]
We morally dissolve if we spend time with excessive beauty [Cioran]
The sublime is negative in awareness of insignificance, and positive in showing understanding [Davies,S]
Accounts of sublimity differ over whether we learn something good about ourselves [Cochrane]