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[filed under theme 16. Persons / A. Concept of a Person / 1. Existence of Persons ]

Full Idea

If we say (in opposition to a physical view of identity) that when Jones dies 'Jones ceases to exist' but 'Jones' body does not cease to exist', this shouldn't be pressed too hard, because it would make 'dead person' a contradiction.

Gist of Idea

'Dead person' isn't a contradiction, so 'person' is somewhat vague

Source

Bernard Williams (Are Persons Bodies? [1970], p.74)

Book Ref

Williams,Bernard: 'Problems of the Self: Papers 1956-1972' [CUP 1979], p.74


A Reaction

A good point, which nicely challenges the distinction between a 'human' and a 'person', but the problem case is much more the one where Jones gets advanced Alzheimer's, rather than dies. A dead body ceases as a mechanism, as well as as a personality.


The 9 ideas with the same theme [whether persons really differ from human beings]:

Some cause must unite the separate temporal sections of a person [Descartes]
Locke uses 'self' for a momentary entity, and 'person' for an extended one [Locke, by Martin/Barresi]
A person is intelligent, rational, self-aware, continuous, conscious [Locke]
Metaphysics requires the idea of people (speakers) located in space and time [Davidson]
'Dead person' isn't a contradiction, so 'person' is somewhat vague [Williams,B]
You can only really love a person as a token, not as a type [Williams,B]
Persons must be conscious, reasoning, motivated, communicative, self-aware [Warren, by Tuckness/Wolf]
Persons are conscious, they relate, they think, they feel, and they are self-aware [Glover]
Persons are selves - subjects of experience, with reflexive self-knowledge [Lowe]