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Single Idea 328

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / e. Role of pleasure ]

Full Idea

Everything that takes place naturally is pleasant.

Clarification

'Nature' is the Greek word 'physis'

Gist of Idea

Everything that takes place naturally is pleasant

Source

Plato (Timaeus [c.349 BCE], 81e)

Book Ref

Plato: 'Timaeus and Critias', ed/tr. Lee,Desmond [Penguin 1971], p.111


A Reaction

Not many people would agree with this. I recently watched a sparrowhawk eat a pigeon in my garden. This is the source of the stoic formula of living according to nature.


The 13 ideas with the same theme [what is the point of pleasure?]:

Good and bad people seem to experience equal amounts of pleasure and pain [Plato]
It is a mistake to think that the most violent pleasure or pain is therefore the truest reality [Plato]
Intense pleasure and pain are not felt in a good body, but in a worthless one [Plato]
Everything that takes place naturally is pleasant [Plato]
Character is revealed by the pleasures and pains people feel [Aristotle]
Feeling inappropriate pleasure or pain affects conduct, and is central to morality [Aristotle]
Pleasure and virtue entail one another [Epicurus]
Immoderate desire is the mark of a child, not an adult [Democritus (attr)]
Nature only wants two things: freedom from pain, and pleasure [Lucretius]
We are scared of death - except when we are immersed in pleasure! [Seneca]
Animals don't value pleasure, as they cease sexual intercourse after impregnation [Plutarch]
Pleasure and pain control all human desires and duties [Bentham]
Pleasure serves to maintain our relationship with its source [Cochrane]