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[filed under theme 15. Nature of Minds / B. Features of Minds / 1. Consciousness / b. Essence of consciousness ]

Full Idea

An organism only has conscious mental states if and only if there is something that it is like to be that organism.

Gist of Idea

An organism is conscious if and only if there is something it is like to be that organism

Source

Thomas Nagel (What is it like to be a bat? [1974], p.166)

Book Ref

Nagel,Thomas: 'Mortal Questions' [CUP 1981], p.166


A Reaction

It is hard to argue with this, but one should push on and ask what features of its consciousness make it such that there is a 'what it is like'. What is it like to have a subconscious mind, or be deeply asleep, or drive while daydreaming?


The 5 ideas from 'What is it like to be a bat?'

Nagel's title creates an impenetrable mystery, by ignoring a bat's ways that may not be "like" anything [Dennett on Nagel]
Physicalism should explain how subjective experience is possible, but not 'what it is like' [Kirk,R on Nagel]
An organism is conscious if and only if there is something it is like to be that organism [Nagel]
We can't be objective about experience [Nagel]
Can we describe our experiences to zombies? [Nagel]