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[filed under theme 17. Mind and Body / A. Mind-Body Dualism / 7. Zombies ]

Full Idea

The goal of an objective phenomenology would be to describe, at least in part, the subjective character of experiences in a form comprehensible to beings incapable of having those experiences.

Gist of Idea

Can we describe our experiences to zombies?

Source

Thomas Nagel (What is it like to be a bat? [1974], p.179)

Book Ref

Nagel,Thomas: 'Mortal Questions' [CUP 1981], p.179


A Reaction

This seems a bizarre expectation. We can already explain visual experience to the blind up to a point, but no one is dreaming of an "objective phenomenology" which will give blind people total understanding, just by reading about it in braille.


The 11 ideas with the same theme [possible complete human, but lacking awareness]:

It's impossible, but imagine a body carrying on normally, but with no mind [Leibniz]
Identity theorists must deny that pains can be imagined without brain states [Kripke]
It seems logically possible to have the pain brain state without the actual pain [Kripke]
Without internal content, a zombie's full behaviour couldn't be explained [Searle]
Can we describe our experiences to zombies? [Nagel]
Are inverted or absent qualia coherent ideas? [Kim]
What could demonstrate that zombies and inversion are impossible? [Kim]
If I can have a zombie twin, my own behaviour doesn't need consciousness [Chalmers]
Philosophers' zombies aim to show consciousness is over and above the physical world [Heil]
Zombies are based on the idea that consciousness relates contingently to the physical [Heil]
Functionalists deny zombies, since identity of functional state means identity of mental state [Heil]