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[filed under theme 17. Mind and Body / A. Mind-Body Dualism / 7. Zombies ]

Full Idea

The goal of an objective phenomenology would be to describe, at least in part, the subjective character of experiences in a form comprehensible to beings incapable of having those experiences.

Gist of Idea

Can we describe our experiences to zombies?

Source

Thomas Nagel (What is it like to be a bat? [1974], p.179)

Book Ref

Nagel,Thomas: 'Mortal Questions' [CUP 1981], p.179


A Reaction

This seems a bizarre expectation. We can already explain visual experience to the blind up to a point, but no one is dreaming of an "objective phenomenology" which will give blind people total understanding, just by reading about it in braille.


The 5 ideas from 'What is it like to be a bat?'

Nagel's title creates an impenetrable mystery, by ignoring a bat's ways that may not be "like" anything [Dennett on Nagel]
Physicalism should explain how subjective experience is possible, but not 'what it is like' [Kirk,R on Nagel]
An organism is conscious if and only if there is something it is like to be that organism [Nagel]
We can't be objective about experience [Nagel]
Can we describe our experiences to zombies? [Nagel]