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Single Idea 382

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / c. Value of pleasure ]

Full Idea

It is unlikely that the gods feel pleasure or the opposite.

Gist of Idea

It is unlikely that the gods feel either pleasure or pain

Source

Plato (Philebus [c.353 BCE], 33b)

Book Ref

Plato: 'Philebus', ed/tr. Waterfield,Robin [Penguin 1982], p.88


A Reaction

Compare Idea 383.

Related Idea

Idea 383 God feels one simple pleasure forever [Aristotle]


The 25 ideas from 'Philebus'

Reason, memory, truth and wisdom are far better than pleasure, for those who can attain them [Plato]
Pleasure is certainly very pleasant, but it doesn't follow that all pleasures are good [Plato]
It seems absurd that seeing a person's limbs, the one is many, and yet the many are one [Plato]
If one object is divided into its parts, someone can then say that one are many and many is one [Plato]
If the good is one, is it unchanged when it is in particulars, and is it then separated from itself? [Plato]
A thing can become one or many, depending on how we talk about it [Plato]
Would you prefer a life of pleasure without reason, or one of reason without pleasure? [Plato]
If you lived a life of maximum pleasure, would you still be lacking anything? [Plato]
A life of pure pleasure with no intellect is the life of a jellyfish [Plato]
The good must be sufficient and perfect, and neither intellect nor pleasure are that [Plato]
We feel pleasure when we approach our natural state of harmony [Plato]
It is unlikely that the gods feel either pleasure or pain [Plato]
Some of the pleasures and pains we feel are false [Plato]
Intense pleasure and pain are not felt in a good body, but in a worthless one [Plato]
A small pure pleasure is much finer than a large one contaminated with pain [Plato]
Hedonists must say that someone in pain is bad, even if they are virtuous [Plato]
Daily arithmetic counts unequal things, but pure arithmetic equalises them [Plato]
How can you be certain about aspects of the world if they aren't constant? [Plato]
It is absurd to define a circle, but not be able to recognise a real one [Plato]
If a mixture does not contain measure and proportion, it is corrupted and destroyed [Plato]
If goodness involves moderation and proportion, then it seems to be found in beauty [Plato]
Any mixture which lacks measure and proportion doesn't even count as a mixture at all [Plato]
The good involves beauty, proportion and truth [Plato]
Neither intellect nor pleasure are the good, because they are not perfect and self-sufficient [Plato]
Good first, then beauty, then reason, then knowledge, then pleasure [Plato, by PG]