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Full Idea
Living beings experience pleasures and pains which seem, and indeed are, false.
Gist of Idea
Some of the pleasures and pains we feel are false
Source
Plato (Philebus [c.353 BCE], 42c)
Book Ref
Plato: 'Philebus', ed/tr. Waterfield,Robin [Penguin 1982], p.106
A Reaction
The idea that there are 'authentic' pleasures and pains needs some investigation. Misguided anger is a false pain? Vanity is a false pleasure?
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4376 | Pleasure and pain are perceptions of things as good or bad [Aristotle] |
4374 | For Aristotle, pleasure is the perception of particulars as valuable [Achtenberg on Aristotle] |
1835 | True pleasure is not debauchery, but freedom from physical and mental pain [Epicurus] |
4847 | Pleasure is a passive state in which the mind increases in perfection [Spinoza] |
12962 | Pleasure is a sense of perfection [Leibniz] |
5049 | Intelligent pleasure is the perception of beauty, order and perfection [Leibniz] |
7197 | Pleasure needs dissatisfaction, boundaries and resistances [Nietzsche] |
4550 | Pleasure and pain are mere epiphenomena, and achievement requires that one desire both [Nietzsche] |
9230 | People want to fulfill their desires, but also for their desires to be sustained [Frankfurt] |