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Full Idea
A hedonist must say that someone who happens to be feeling pain rather than pleasure is, as long as the pain lasts, a bad man, even if he is the most virtuous man in the world.
Gist of Idea
Hedonists must say that someone in pain is bad, even if they are virtuous
Source
Plato (Philebus [c.353 BCE], 55b)
Book Ref
Plato: 'Philebus', ed/tr. Waterfield,Robin [Penguin 1982], p.128
| 130 | Is the happiest state one of sensual, self-indulgent freedom? [Plato] |
| 377 | If you lived a life of maximum pleasure, would you still be lacking anything? [Plato] |
| 378 | A life of pure pleasure with no intellect is the life of a jellyfish [Plato] |
| 388 | Hedonists must say that someone in pain is bad, even if they are virtuous [Plato] |
| 71 | Licentiousness concerns the animal-like pleasures of touch and taste [Aristotle] |
| 5954 | All inventions of the mind aim at pleasure, and those that don't are worthless [Metrodorus of Lamp., by Plutarch] |
| 5967 | People need nothing except corn and water [Chrysippus, by Plutarch] |
| 4019 | Things are good and evil only in reference to pleasure and pain [Locke] |
| 23033 | Hedonism offers no satisfaction, because what we desire is self-betterment [Green,TH, by Muirhead] |