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Single Idea 420

[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / E. Cosmology / 2. Eternal Universe ]

Full Idea

This cosmos, which is the same for all, was not created by any one of the gods or of mankind, but it was ever and is and shall be ever-living fire, kindled and quenched in measure.

Gist of Idea

The cosmos is eternal not created, and is an ever-living and changing fire

Source

Heraclitus (fragments/reports [c.500 BCE], B030), quoted by Clement - Miscellanies 5.1.103

Book Ref

'Ancilla to the Pre-Socratic Philosophers', ed/tr. Freeman,Kathleen [Harvard 1957], p.26


The 8 ideas with the same theme [no beginning for the universe]:

Originally there must have been just Existence, which could not come from non-existence [Anon (Upan)]
The parts of all things are susceptible to change, but the whole is unchangeable [Anaximander, by Diog. Laertius]
The cosmos is eternal not created, and is an ever-living and changing fire [Heraclitus]
Nothing could come out of nothing [Melissus]
If each thing can cease to be, why hasn't absolutely everything ceased to be long ago? [Aristotle]
Do things come to be from what is, or from what is not? Both seem problematical. [Aristotle]
The cosmos is regularly consumed and reorganised by the primary fire [Stoic school, by Aristocles]
Nothing can be created by divine power out of nothing [Lucretius]