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Single Idea 4376

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / a. Nature of pleasure ]

Full Idea

To experience pleasure or pain is to be active with the perceptive mean in relation to good or bad as such.

Gist of Idea

Pleasure and pain are perceptions of things as good or bad

Source

Aristotle (De Anima [c.329 BCE], 431a10)

Book Ref

Aristotle: 'De Anima (On the Soul)', ed/tr. Lawson-Tancred,H.C. [Penguin 1986], p.208


A Reaction

A bizarre view which is interesting, but strikes me as wrong. We are drawn towards pleasure, but judgement can pull us away again, and 'good' is in the judgement, not in the feeling.


The 10 ideas with the same theme [what exactly pleasure is]:

Some of the pleasures and pains we feel are false [Plato]
Pleasure and pain are perceptions of things as good or bad [Aristotle]
For Aristotle, pleasure is the perception of particulars as valuable [Achtenberg on Aristotle]
True pleasure is not debauchery, but freedom from physical and mental pain [Epicurus]
Pleasure is a passive state in which the mind increases in perfection [Spinoza]
Pleasure is a sense of perfection [Leibniz]
Intelligent pleasure is the perception of beauty, order and perfection [Leibniz]
Pleasure needs dissatisfaction, boundaries and resistances [Nietzsche]
Pleasure and pain are mere epiphenomena, and achievement requires that one desire both [Nietzsche]
People want to fulfill their desires, but also for their desires to be sustained [Frankfurt]