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Full Idea
Brave and creative men never consider pleasure and pain as ultimate values - they are epiphenomena: one must desire both if one is to achieve anything.
Gist of Idea
Pleasure and pain are mere epiphenomena, and achievement requires that one desire both
Source
Friedrich Nietzsche (The Will to Power (notebooks) [1888], §579)
Book Ref
Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'The Will to Power', ed/tr. Kaufmann,W /Hollingdate,R [Vintage 1968], p.311
A Reaction
I am struggling with the notion that I must desire pain if I am ambitious, but to label these feeling 'epiphenomena' is challenging and plausible. I certainly deny that they have intrinsic value, which is a matter of judgement, not feeling.