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Single Idea 4678

[filed under theme 25. Social Practice / F. Life Issues / 4. Suicide ]

Full Idea

If suicide is allowed, then everything is allowed. If anything is not allowed, then suicide is not allowed. This throws a light on the nature of ethics, for suicide is, so to speak, the elementary sin.

Gist of Idea

Absolute prohibitions are the essence of ethics, and suicide is the most obvious example

Source

Ludwig Wittgenstein (Notebooks 1914-1916 [1915], end), quoted by Jonathan Glover - Causing Death and Saving Lives §13

Book Ref

Glover,Jonathan: 'Causing Death and Saving Lives' [Penguin 1982], p.171


A Reaction

This reveals the religious streak in Wittgenstein. I am reluctant to judge suicide, but this seems wrong. Should a 'jumper' worry if they land on someone else and kill them? Of course they should.


The 24 ideas with the same theme [attitudes to a person taking their own life]:

A suicide embraces death to run away from hardships, rather than because it is a fine deed [Aristotle]
Wise men should partake of life even if they go blind [Epicurus, by Diog. Laertius]
It is small-minded to find many good reasons for suicide [Epicurus]
Stoics say a wise man will commit suicide if he has a good enough reason [Stoic school, by Diog. Laertius]
Suicide is reasonable, for one's country or friends, or because of very bad health [Stoic school, by Diog. Laertius]
Suicide may be appropriate even when it is not urgent, if there are few reasons against it [Seneca]
If we control our own death, no one has power over us [Seneca]
Sometimes we have a duty not to commit suicide, for those we love [Seneca]
It is impossible that the necessity of a person's nature should produce a desire for non-existence [Spinoza]
If suicide is wrong because only God disposes of our lives, it must also be wrong to save lives [Hume]
The maxim for suicide is committed to the value of life, and is thus contradictory [Kant]
A permanent natural order could not universalise a rule permitting suicide [Kant]
If suicide was quick and easy, most people would have done it by now [Schopenhauer]
Sometimes it is an error to have been born - but we can rectify it [Nietzsche]
Absolute prohibitions are the essence of ethics, and suicide is the most obvious example [Wittgenstein]
Even if a drowning man is doomed, he should keep swimming to the last [Weil]
Religions see suicide as insubordination [Cioran]
No one has ever found a good argument against suicide [Cioran]
If you have not contemplated suicide, you are a miserable worm [Cioran]
Suicide is pointless, because it always comes too late [Cioran]
It is essential to die unreconciled and not of one's own free will [Camus]
Suicide is ascribed to depression, with the originality of the act of will ignored [Baudrillard]
One test for a worthwhile life is to assess the amount of life for which you would rather be unconscious [Glover]
If suicide is lawful, but assisting suicide is unlawful, powerless people are denied their rights [Grayling]