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Single Idea 4847

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / a. Nature of pleasure ]

Full Idea

By pleasure I shall signify a passive state wherein the mind passes to a greater perfection.

Gist of Idea

Pleasure is a passive state in which the mind increases in perfection

Source

Baruch de Spinoza (The Ethics [1675], III Pr 11)

Book Ref

Spinoza,Benedict de: 'Ethics, Improvement of Understanding, Letters', ed/tr. Elwes,R [Dover 1955], p.138


A Reaction

A rather bizarre definition! He seems to be defining it as a state and as a process in the same sentence. It sounds to me like both a hedonist's charter, and nonsense. I'm with Plato and Aristotle, that pleasure is dangerous as it warps the mind.


The 10 ideas with the same theme [what exactly pleasure is]:

Some of the pleasures and pains we feel are false [Plato]
Pleasure and pain are perceptions of things as good or bad [Aristotle]
For Aristotle, pleasure is the perception of particulars as valuable [Achtenberg on Aristotle]
True pleasure is not debauchery, but freedom from physical and mental pain [Epicurus]
Pleasure is a passive state in which the mind increases in perfection [Spinoza]
Pleasure is a sense of perfection [Leibniz]
Intelligent pleasure is the perception of beauty, order and perfection [Leibniz]
Pleasure needs dissatisfaction, boundaries and resistances [Nietzsche]
Pleasure and pain are mere epiphenomena, and achievement requires that one desire both [Nietzsche]
People want to fulfill their desires, but also for their desires to be sustained [Frankfurt]