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Single Idea 521

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / b. Types of pleasure ]

Full Idea

One should choose not every pleasure, but only that concerned with the beautiful.

Clarification

'Beauty' is the Greek word 'kalos', which also translates as 'fine'

Gist of Idea

We should only choose pleasures which are concerned with the beautiful

Source

Democritus (attrib) (reports [c.250 BCE], B207), quoted by John Stobaeus - Anthology 3.05.22

Book Ref

'Ancilla to the Pre-Socratic Philosophers', ed/tr. Freeman,Kathleen [Harvard 1957], p.111


A Reaction

The pleasures we should prefer are those which involve the whole person, rather than the mere stimulation of one sense. Sez me.


The 16 ideas with the same theme [what types of pleasure are there?]:

A small pure pleasure is much finer than a large one contaminated with pain [Plato]
Nice smells are intensive, have no preceding pain, and no bad after-effect [Plato]
There are pleasures of the soul (e.g. civic honour, and learning) and of the body [Aristotle]
God feels one simple pleasure forever [Aristotle]
Intellectual pleasures are superior to sensuous ones [Aristotle]
Pains of the soul are worse than pains of the body, because it feels the past and future [Epicurus, by Diog. Laertius]
Pleasures only differ in their duration and the part of the body affected [Epicurus]
The end for Epicurus is static pleasure [Epicurus, by Annas]
Good and true are the same for everyone, but pleasures differ [Democritus (attr)]
We should only choose pleasures which are concerned with the beautiful [Democritus (attr)]
Cyrenaic pleasure is a motion, but Epicurean pleasure is a condition [Diog. Laertius]
Prejudice apart, push-pin has equal value with music and poetry [Bentham]
Of Bentham's 'dimensions' of pleasure, only intensity and duration matter [Ross on Bentham]
He gives his body up to pleasure, but not his soul [Joubert]
The pleasure of existing is the only genuine pleasure [Hadot]
Greeks and early Christians were much more concerned about food than about sex [Foucault]