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Single Idea 5271
[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / b. Types of pleasure
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Full Idea
Prejudice apart, the game of push-pin is of equal value with the arts and science of music and poetry.
Gist of Idea
Prejudice apart, push-pin has equal value with music and poetry
Source
Jeremy Bentham (Constitutional Code I [1827], p.139), quoted by J.R. Dinwiddy - Bentham p.114
Book Ref
Dinwiddy,J.R.: 'Bentham' [OUP 1989], p.114
A Reaction
Mill quoted this with implied outrage, but Bentham was attacking public subsidies to the arts when he said it. It is a basic idea in the debate on pleasure - that pleasures are only distinguished by their intensity, not some other value.
The
16 ideas
with the same theme
[what types of pleasure are there?]:
387
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A small pure pleasure is much finer than a large one contaminated with pain
[Plato]
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2157
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Nice smells are intensive, have no preceding pain, and no bad after-effect
[Plato]
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5230
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There are pleasures of the soul (e.g. civic honour, and learning) and of the body
[Aristotle]
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383
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God feels one simple pleasure forever
[Aristotle]
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5270
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Intellectual pleasures are superior to sensuous ones
[Aristotle]
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3557
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The end for Epicurus is static pleasure
[Epicurus, by Annas]
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1839
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Pains of the soul are worse than pains of the body, because it feels the past and future
[Epicurus, by Diog. Laertius]
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1842
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Pleasures only differ in their duration and the part of the body affected
[Epicurus]
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505
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Good and true are the same for everyone, but pleasures differ
[Democritus (attr)]
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521
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We should only choose pleasures which are concerned with the beautiful
[Democritus (attr)]
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1838
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Cyrenaic pleasure is a motion, but Epicurean pleasure is a condition
[Diog. Laertius]
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5271
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Prejudice apart, push-pin has equal value with music and poetry
[Bentham]
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5934
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Of Bentham's 'dimensions' of pleasure, only intensity and duration matter
[Ross on Bentham]
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8096
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He gives his body up to pleasure, but not his soul
[Joubert]
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9196
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The pleasure of existing is the only genuine pleasure
[Hadot]
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7498
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Greeks and early Christians were much more concerned about food than about sex
[Foucault]
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