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[filed under theme 16. Persons / E. Rejecting the Self / 2. Self as Social Construct ]

Full Idea

Hegel tries to show that knowledge of self as subject presupposes not just knowledge of objects, but knowledge of a public social world, in which there is moral order and civic trust.

Gist of Idea

For Hegel knowledge of self presupposes objects, and also a public and moral social world

Source

report of Georg W.F.Hegel (Phenomenology of Spirit [1807]) by Roger Scruton - Short History of Modern Philosophy Ch.12

Book Ref

Scruton,Roger: 'A Short History of Modern Philosophy' [ARK 1985], p.177


A Reaction

This is not far off Wittgenstein's private language argument. It is also Popper's 'World Three', of society and language. Human reality is incomprehensible without some recognition of the culture in which we immerse, like fish in water.


The 13 ideas with the same theme [we see ourselves totally through social influences]:

For Hegel knowledge of self presupposes objects, and also a public and moral social world [Hegel, by Scruton]
A human only become a somebody as a member of a social estate [Hegel]
Individuals attain their right by discovering their self-consciousness in institutions [Hegel]
The authentic self exists at the level of class, rather than the individual [Marx, by Dunt]
There are no 'individual' persons; we are each the sum of humanity up to this moment [Nietzsche]
Goffman sees the self as no more than a peg on which to hang roles we play [Goffman, by MacIntyre]
A subject is a form which can change, in (say) political or sexual situations [Foucault]
Selves are not soul-pearls, but artefacts of social processes [Dennett]
The 'Kantian' self steps back from commitment to its social situation [Kymlicka]
A sense of self begins either internally, or externally through language and society [Edelman/Tononi]
To be considered 'an individual' is performed by a society [Kusch]
Locke's intrinsic view of personal identity has been replaced by an externalist view [Martin/Barresi]
Nazis think race predetermines the self [Bowie]