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Single Idea 5664

[filed under theme 16. Persons / B. Nature of the Self / 1. Self and Consciousness ]

Full Idea

It may not make sense to talk of states of consciousness except as the experiences of some conscious subject; and it may well be that this conscious subject can not be identified except by reference to his body.

Gist of Idea

Consciousness must involve a subject, and only bodies identify subjects

Source

A.J. Ayer (The Concept of a Person [1963], §IV)

Book Ref

Ayer,A.J.: 'The Concept of a Person etc' [Macmillan 1973], p.113


A Reaction

It strikes me that Ayer deserves more credit as a pioneer of this view. It tracks back to what may turn out to be the key difficulty for Descartes - how do you individuate a mental substance? I may identify me, but how do I identify you?


The 7 ideas with the same theme [possibility that only conscious beings could have a Self]:

Our personal identity must depend on something we are aware of, namely consciousness [Locke]
My little finger is part of me if I am conscious of it [Locke]
Habits constitute the self [Dewey]
Consciousness must involve a subject, and only bodies identify subjects [Ayer]
A self must at least be capable of consciousness [Searle]
Selfs are conscious, enduring, reasonable, active, free, and responsible [Searle]
The mind and the self are one, and the mind-self is a biological phenomenon [Polger]