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Single Idea 5664

[filed under theme 16. Persons / B. Nature of the Self / 1. Self and Consciousness ]

Full Idea

It may not make sense to talk of states of consciousness except as the experiences of some conscious subject; and it may well be that this conscious subject can not be identified except by reference to his body.

Gist of Idea

Consciousness must involve a subject, and only bodies identify subjects

Source

A.J. Ayer (The Concept of a Person [1963], §IV)

Book Ref

Ayer,A.J.: 'The Concept of a Person etc' [Macmillan 1973], p.113


A Reaction

It strikes me that Ayer deserves more credit as a pioneer of this view. It tracks back to what may turn out to be the key difficulty for Descartes - how do you individuate a mental substance? I may identify me, but how do I identify you?


The 7 ideas from 'The Concept of a Person'

We identify experiences by their owners, so we can't define owners by their experiences [Ayer]
Maybe induction could never prove the existence of something unobservable [Ayer]
Consciousness must involve a subject, and only bodies identify subjects [Ayer]
People own conscious states because they are causally related to the identifying body [Ayer]
Memory is the best proposal as what unites bundles of experiences [Ayer]
Not all exerience can be remembered, as this would produce an infinite regress [Ayer]
Personal identity can't just be relations of experiences, because the body is needed to identify them [Ayer]