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Single Idea 5967

[filed under theme 23. Ethics / A. Egoism / 2. Hedonism ]

Full Idea

Chrysippus praises ad nauseam the lines "For what need mortals save two things alone,/ Demeter's grain and draughts of water clear".

Gist of Idea

People need nothing except corn and water

Source

report of Chrysippus (fragments/reports [c.240 BCE]) by Plutarch - 70: Stoic Self-contradictions 1043e

Book Ref

Plutarch: 'Moralia - vol 13 part 2', ed/tr. Cherniss,Harold [Harvard Loeb 1993], p.497


A Reaction

"Oh, reason not the need!" says King Lear. The remark shows the close affinity of stoicism and cynicism, as the famous story of Diogenes is that he threw away his drinking cup when he realised you could drink with your hands.


The 9 ideas with the same theme [central aim of life being individual pleasure]:

Is the happiest state one of sensual, self-indulgent freedom? [Plato]
If you lived a life of maximum pleasure, would you still be lacking anything? [Plato]
A life of pure pleasure with no intellect is the life of a jellyfish [Plato]
Hedonists must say that someone in pain is bad, even if they are virtuous [Plato]
Licentiousness concerns the animal-like pleasures of touch and taste [Aristotle]
All inventions of the mind aim at pleasure, and those that don't are worthless [Metrodorus of Lamp., by Plutarch]
People need nothing except corn and water [Chrysippus, by Plutarch]
Things are good and evil only in reference to pleasure and pain [Locke]
Hedonism offers no satisfaction, because what we desire is self-betterment [Green,TH, by Muirhead]