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Single Idea 6210

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 2. Happiness / c. Value of happiness ]

Full Idea

For an utmost end, in which the ancient philosophers have placed felicity, there is no such thing in this world, nor way to it: for while we live, we have desires, and desire presupposeth a further end.

Clarification

'Felicity' is happiness

Gist of Idea

Life has no end (not even happiness), because we have desires, which presuppose a further end

Source

Thomas Hobbes (Human Nature [1640], Ch.VII.6)

Book Ref

'British Moralists 1650-1800 Vol. 1', ed/tr. Raphael,D.D. [Hackett 1991], p.5


A Reaction

Kant's definition of happiness (Idea 1452) seems to be the underlying idea, and hence with the same implication (of impossibility). However, an alcoholic locked in a brewery would seem to have all that Hobbes requires for happiness.

Related Idea

Idea 1452 Happiness is the condition of a rational being for whom everything goes as they wish [Kant]


The 14 ideas with the same theme [how important is happiness?]:

Aristotle is unsure about eudaimonia because he is unsure what people are [Nagel on Aristotle]
Goods like pleasure are chosen partly for happiness, but happiness is chosen just for itself [Aristotle]
Happiness is perfect and self-sufficient, the end of all action [Aristotle]
What happens to me if I obtain all my desires, and what if I fail? [Epicurus]
Everyone wants happiness [Augustine]
Life has no end (not even happiness), because we have desires, which presuppose a further end [Hobbes]
A concern for happiness is the inevitable result of consciousness [Locke]
Morality is not about making ourselves happy, but about being worthy of happiness [Kant]
Duty does not aim at an end, but gives rise to universal happiness as aim of the will [Kant]
Only the English actually strive after happiness [Nietzsche]
It is a sign of degeneration when eudaimonistic values begin to prevail [Nietzsche]
We have no more right to 'happiness' than worms [Nietzsche]
I want my work, not happiness! [Nietzsche]
Good versus evil has been banefully reduced to happiness versus misfortune [Baudrillard]