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Single Idea 6210

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 2. Happiness / c. Value of happiness ]

Full Idea

For an utmost end, in which the ancient philosophers have placed felicity, there is no such thing in this world, nor way to it: for while we live, we have desires, and desire presupposeth a further end.

Clarification

'Felicity' is happiness

Gist of Idea

Life has no end (not even happiness), because we have desires, which presuppose a further end

Source

Thomas Hobbes (Human Nature [1640], Ch.VII.6)

Book Ref

'British Moralists 1650-1800 Vol. 1', ed/tr. Raphael,D.D. [Hackett 1991], p.5


A Reaction

Kant's definition of happiness (Idea 1452) seems to be the underlying idea, and hence with the same implication (of impossibility). However, an alcoholic locked in a brewery would seem to have all that Hobbes requires for happiness.

Related Idea

Idea 1452 Happiness is the condition of a rational being for whom everything goes as they wish [Kant]


The 6 ideas from 'Human Nature'

Lust involves pleasure, and also the sense of power in pleasing others [Hobbes]
Laughter is a sudden glory in realising the infirmity of others, or our own formerly [Hobbes]
Conceptions and apparitions are just motion in some internal substance of the head [Hobbes]
There is no absolute good, for even the goodness of God is goodness to us [Hobbes]
Life has no end (not even happiness), because we have desires, which presuppose a further end [Hobbes]
A man cannot will to will, or will to will to will, so the idea of a voluntary will is absurd [Hobbes]