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Single Idea 6469

[filed under theme 12. Knowledge Sources / B. Perception / 4. Sense Data / d. Sense-data problems ]

Full Idea

One reason often alleged for the subjectivity of sense-data is that the appearance of a thing itself may change when we find it hard to suppose that the thing itself has changed - as when we shut our eyes, or screw them up to make things look double.

Gist of Idea

Sense-data may be subjective, if closing our eyes can change them

Source

Bertrand Russell (The Relation of Sense-Data to Physics [1914], §VIII)

Book Ref

Russell,Bertrand: 'Mysticism and Logic' [Unwin 1989], p.157

A Reaction

Russell firmly denies that they are subjective. These examples are also said to support to proposed existence of sense-data in the first place, since they show the gap between appearance and reality.

The 19 ideas with the same theme [difficulties with the concept of sense-data]:

6476 We cannot assume that the subject actually exists, so we cannot distinguish sensations from sense-data [Russell]
8854 My 'acquaintance' with sense-data is nothing like my knowing New York [Williams,M on Russell]
6458 Individuating sense-data is difficult, because they divide when closely attended to [Russell]
6469 Sense-data may be subjective, if closing our eyes can change them [Russell]
15580 There are no raw sense-data - our experiences are of the sound or colour of something [Heidegger]
18729 Part of what we mean by stating the facts is the way we tend to experience them [Wittgenstein]
6501 As sense-data are necessarily private, they are attacked by Wittgenstein's objections [Wittgenstein, by Robinson,H]
6493 We are not conscious of pure liquidity, but of the liquidity of water [Firth]
21686 Sense-data are dubious abstractions, with none of the plausibility of tables [Quine]
15819 Do sense-data have structure, location, weight, and constituting matter? [Chisholm]
3296 Sense-data are a false objectification of what is essentially subjective [Nagel]
15244 We experience qualities as of objects, not on their own [Harré/Madden]
7639 The Homunculus Fallacy explains a subject perceiving objects by repeating the problem internally [Evans]
3581 Sense data can't give us knowledge if they are non-propositional [Williams,M]
6505 Sense-data are rejected because they are a veil between us and reality, leading to scepticism [Robinson,H]
4101 If we smell something we are aware of the smell separately, but we don't perceive a 'look' when we see [Crane]
4102 The problems of perception disappear if it is a relation to an intentional state, not to an object or sense datum [Crane]
6639 The 'disjunctive' theory of perception says true perceptions and hallucinations need have nothing in common [Lowe]
4720 Sense-data are only safe from scepticism if they are primitive and unconceptualised [O'Grady]