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Single Idea 6482

[filed under theme 12. Knowledge Sources / B. Perception / 4. Sense Data / b. Nature of sense-data ]

Full Idea

For idealists and phenomenalists sense-data are part of physical objects, for objects consist only of actual or actual and possible sense-data; representative realists say they just have an abstract and structural resemblance to objects.

Gist of Idea

For idealists and phenomenalists sense-data are in objects; representative realists say they resemble objects

Source

Howard Robinson (Perception [1994], 1.1)

Book Ref

Robinson,Howard: 'Perception' [Routledge 2001], p.3


A Reaction

He puts Berkeley, Hume and Mill in the first group, and Locke in the second. Russell belongs in the second. The very fact that there can be two such different theories about the location of sense-data rather discredits the whole idea.


The 17 ideas with the same theme [what sense-data would consist of]:

Subjects distinguish representations, as related both to subject and object [Reinhold]
Russell held that we are aware of states of our own brain [Russell, by Robinson,H]
Sense-data are qualities devoid of subjectivity, which are the basis of science [Russell, by Deleuze/Guattari]
Sense-data are not mental, but are part of the subject-matter of physics [Russell]
Sense-data are objects, and do not contain the subject as part, the way beliefs do [Russell]
Sense-data are usually objects within the body, but are not part of the subject [Russell]
No sensibile is ever a datum to two people at once [Russell]
If my body literally lost its mind, the object seen when I see a flash would still exist [Russell]
Sense-data are purely physical [Russell]
The old view that sense data are independent of mind is quite dotty [Putnam]
Sensations are mental, but sense-data could be mind-independent [Vesey]
Some claim sense-data are public, and are parts of objects [Lacey]
Where do sense-data begin or end? Can they change? What sort of thing are they? [Lacey]
It is not clear from the nature of sense data whether we should accept them as facts [Dancy,J]
Sense-data do not have any intrinsic intentionality [Robinson,H]
For idealists and phenomenalists sense-data are in objects; representative realists say they resemble objects [Robinson,H]
Are sense-data independent, with identity, substance and location? [Tye]