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Single Idea 6713

[filed under theme 15. Nature of Minds / A. Nature of Mind / 7. Animal Minds ]

Full Idea

If the brutes have any ideas at all, and are not bare machines (as some would have them), we cannot deny them to have some reason.

Gist of Idea

If animals have ideas, and are not machines, they must have some reason

Source

George Berkeley (The Principles of Human Knowledge [1710], Intro §11)

Book Ref

Berkeley,George: 'The Principles of Human Knowledge etc.', ed/tr. Warnock,G.J. [Fontana 1962], p.51


A Reaction

It seems possible to imagine a low level of mind, where a few ideas (or concepts) float around, but hardly anything worth the name of reason. However, a Darwinian view suggests that concepts must bestow an advantage, so the two go together.


The 12 ideas with the same theme [whether animals have consciousness and reason]:

Animals have a share of reason [Democritus, by Porphyry]
Dogs show reason in decisions made by elimination [Chrysippus, by Sext.Empiricus]
Little reason is needed to speak, so animals have no reason at all [Descartes]
Animals are often observed to be wiser than people [Spinoza]
Unlike humans, animals cannot entertain general ideas [Locke]
Animals are semi-rational because they connect facts, but they don't see causes [Leibniz]
Animal thought is a shadow of reasoning, connecting sequences of images by imagination [Leibniz]
It seems probable that animals have souls, but not consciousness [Leibniz]
If animals have ideas, and are not machines, they must have some reason [Berkeley]
We may think animals reason very little, but they hardly ever make mistakes! [Peirce]
Dogs' curiosity only concerns what will happen next [James]
No one knows if animals are conscious [Carter,R]