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Single Idea 7194

[filed under theme 21. Aesthetics / A. Aesthetic Experience / 2. Aesthetic Attitude ]

Full Idea

To experience a thing as beautiful necessarily means experiencing it wrongly.

Gist of Idea

Experiencing a thing as beautiful is to experience it wrongly

Source

Friedrich Nietzsche (Writings from Late Notebooks [1887], 10[167])

Book Ref

Nietzsche,Friedrich: 'Writings from the Late Notebooks', ed/tr. Bittner,Rüdiger [CUP 2003], p.203

A Reaction

So much for 'beauty is truth' (Keats). I suppose I agree, for example, about a face. If you don't experience the beauty of a good melody, there is nothing else left to experience - no mundane truth that needs reporting.

The 22 ideas with the same theme [distinctive frame of mind in aesthetic experience]:

18545 The disinterested attitude of the judge is the hallmark of a judgement of beauty [Shaftesbury, by Scruton]
18552 Forget about beauty; just concentrate on the virtues of delicacy and discernment admired in critics [Hume, by Scruton]
18547 Only rational beings can experience beauty [Kant, by Scruton]
20346 The aesthetic attitude is a matter of disinterestedness [Kant, by Wollheim]
24172 It is hard to see why we would have developed Kant's 'disinterested' aesthetic attitude [Cochrane on Kant]
22043 Hegel largely ignores aesthetic pleasure, taste and beauty, and focuses on the meaning of artworks [Hegel, by Pinkard]
21370 Schopenhauer is a chief proponent of aesthetic experience as 'disinterested' [Schopenhauer, by Janaway]
7194 Experiencing a thing as beautiful is to experience it wrongly [Nietzsche]
20424 Imaginative life requires no action, so new kinds of perception and values emerge in art [Fry]
20427 Everyone reveals an aesthetic attitude, looking at something which only exists to be seen [Fry]
23928 Good art produces exaltation and detachment [Bell,C]
5933 Aesthetic enjoyment combines pleasure with insight [Ross]
6606 Consider: "Imagine this butterfly exactly as it is, but ugly instead of beautiful" [Wittgenstein]
20342 Interpretation is performance for some arts, and critical for all arts [Wollheim]
20343 A love of nature must precede a love of art [Wollheim]
20443 The aesthetic attitude is nothing more than paying close attention [Dickie, by Giovannelli]
18546 The pleasure taken in beauty also aims at understanding and valuing [Scruton]
18550 Art gives us imaginary worlds which we can view impartially [Scruton]
12158 Aesthetic experience informs the world with the values of the observer [Scruton]
22703 We don't often respond to events in art as if they were real events [Jacobson,D]
22687 Maybe literary assessment is evaluating the artist as a suitable friend [Gaut]
20387 Aesthetic experience involves perception, but also imagination and understanding [Davies,S]