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Single Idea 7938

[filed under theme 8. Modes of Existence / A. Relations / 2. Internal Relations ]

Full Idea

In statements attributing relational properties ('Felix is my favourite cat'), it seems clear that the property truly attributed to the substance is not essential to it.

Gist of Idea

Relational properties are clearly not essential to substances

Source

Cynthia Macdonald (Varieties of Things [2005], Ch.3)

Book Ref

Macdonald,Cynthia: 'Varieties of Things' [Blackwell 2005], p.101


A Reaction

A fairly obvious point, but an important one when mapping out (cautiously) what we actually mean by 'property'. However, maybe the relational property is essential: the ceiling is ('is' of predication!) above the room.


The 15 ideas with the same theme [relations as intrinsic features of the things that are related]:

If Simmias is taller than Socrates, that isn't a feature that is just in Simmias [Plato]
The nature of each category relates itself to another [Hegel]
Internal relations are said to be intrinsic properties of two terms, and of the whole they compose [Bradley, by Russell]
Relations must be linked to their qualities, but that implies an infinite regress of relations [Bradley]
A relation is internal if two things possessing the relation could not fail to be related [Moore,GE, by Heil]
A relation is internal if it is unthinkable that its object should not possess it [Wittgenstein]
The order of numbers is an internal relation, not an external one [Wittgenstein]
Truthmaking is a clear example of an internal relation [Heil]
If R internally relates a and b, and you have a and b, you thereby have R [Heil]
In the case of 5 and 6, their relational truthmaker is just the numbers [Heil]
If causal relations are power manifestations, that makes them internal relations [Heil]
Internal relations are fixed by existences, or characters, or supervenience on characters [MacBride]
Relational properties are clearly not essential to substances [Macdonald,C]
The normal assumption is that relations depend on properties of the relata [Ladyman/Ross]
Internal relations depend either on the existence of the relata, or on their properties [Rami]