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Single Idea 8143

[filed under theme 16. Persons / A. Concept of a Person / 3. Persons as Reasoners ]

Full Idea

Know that the Self (Atman) is the rider, and the body the chariot; that the intellect is the charioteer, and the mind the reins.

Gist of Idea

Self is the rider, intellect the charioteer, mind the reins, and body the chariot

Source

Anon (Upan) (The Upanishads [c.950 BCE], 'Katha')

Book Ref

'The Upanishads', ed/tr. Prabhavananda /Manchester [Mentor 1957], p.19


A Reaction

This strikes me as exactly right. Even my intellectual powers are servants of the self. This suggests the view of the mind as a tool, which does not seem to occur in modern discussions.


The 5 ideas with the same theme [concept of a person is needed for reasoning]:

Self is the rider, intellect the charioteer, mind the reins, and body the chariot [Anon (Upan)]
I can hardly care about rational consequence if it wasn't me conceiving the antecedent [Reid]
Giving reasons for action requires reference to a self [Searle]
A 'self' must be capable of conscious reasonings about action [Searle]
An intentional, acting, rational being must have a self [Searle]