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Single Idea 8154

[filed under theme 27. Natural Reality / E. Cosmology / 2. Eternal Universe ]

Full Idea

In the beginning there was Existence, One only, without a second. Some say that in the beginning there was non-existence only, and that out of that the universe was born. But how could such a thing be? How could existence be born of non-existence?

Gist of Idea

Originally there must have been just Existence, which could not come from non-existence

Source

Anon (Upan) (The Upanishads [c.950 BCE], 'Chandogya')

Book Ref

'The Upanishads', ed/tr. Prabhavananda /Manchester [Mentor 1957], p.68


A Reaction

A very rare instance of an argument in the Upanishads, arising out of a disagreement. The monotheistic religions have preferred to make God the eternal element, presumably because that raises his status, but is also explains the start as a decision.


The 8 ideas with the same theme [no beginning for the universe]:

Originally there must have been just Existence, which could not come from non-existence [Anon (Upan)]
The parts of all things are susceptible to change, but the whole is unchangeable [Anaximander, by Diog. Laertius]
The cosmos is eternal not created, and is an ever-living and changing fire [Heraclitus]
Nothing could come out of nothing [Melissus]
If each thing can cease to be, why hasn't absolutely everything ceased to be long ago? [Aristotle]
Do things come to be from what is, or from what is not? Both seem problematical. [Aristotle]
The cosmos is regularly consumed and reorganised by the primary fire [Stoic school, by Aristocles]
Nothing can be created by divine power out of nothing [Lucretius]