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Single Idea 9196
[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / b. Types of pleasure
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Full Idea
For epicureans, the only genuine pleasure there is is the pleasure of existing.
Gist of Idea
The pleasure of existing is the only genuine pleasure
Source
Pierre Hadot (Philosophy as a way of life [1987], 3.1)
Book Ref
Hadot,Pierre: 'Philosophy as a Way of Life', ed/tr. Davidson,Arnold I. [Blackwell 1995], p.87
A Reaction
I don't know Hadot's source for this claim, but it is a nice idea, which I shall endeavour to incorporate into my own attitude to daily living. I'm not quite clear, though, why the pleasure of music is not a 'genuine' one.
The
16 ideas
with the same theme
[what types of pleasure are there?]:
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387
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A small pure pleasure is much finer than a large one contaminated with pain
[Plato]
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2157
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Nice smells are intensive, have no preceding pain, and no bad after-effect
[Plato]
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5230
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There are pleasures of the soul (e.g. civic honour, and learning) and of the body
[Aristotle]
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383
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God feels one simple pleasure forever
[Aristotle]
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5270
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Intellectual pleasures are superior to sensuous ones
[Aristotle]
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3557
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The end for Epicurus is static pleasure
[Epicurus, by Annas]
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1839
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Pains of the soul are worse than pains of the body, because it feels the past and future
[Epicurus, by Diog. Laertius]
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1842
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Pleasures only differ in their duration and the part of the body affected
[Epicurus]
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505
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Good and true are the same for everyone, but pleasures differ
[Democritus (attr)]
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521
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We should only choose pleasures which are concerned with the beautiful
[Democritus (attr)]
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1838
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Cyrenaic pleasure is a motion, but Epicurean pleasure is a condition
[Diog. Laertius]
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5271
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Prejudice apart, push-pin has equal value with music and poetry
[Bentham]
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5934
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Of Bentham's 'dimensions' of pleasure, only intensity and duration matter
[Ross on Bentham]
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8096
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He gives his body up to pleasure, but not his soul
[Joubert]
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9196
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The pleasure of existing is the only genuine pleasure
[Hadot]
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7498
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Greeks and early Christians were much more concerned about food than about sex
[Foucault]
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